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If you are like our typical listener, you adore making art. Maybe you don‘t have much time, maybe perfectionism gets in the way... we get it. We‘ve been there too. That‘s why we created this podcast. To help people just like you to overcome those hurdles and dive into painting so you can create art you love and experience the hidden benefits too.
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Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
048 Why You’re Scared to Set Goals for Your Art Business - Step 4 of 5
Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
In this episode, we chat about how to set goals and intentions for your art business. We share our own personal challenges with fear of failure and comparisonitis and how in adulthood, we have found our brave and embraced self-development in combination with self-kindness in order to achieve the successes we have in our art businesses.
Tune in now to discover our process for goal setting that you can apply to your art business right now.
Setting goals for your art business will help you to define what success means to you both in relation to art business and the rest of your life. When done the right way, goal setting sets you up to achieve happiness, fulfilment and a sense of achievement so you are making the most out of life and living in alignment with your values.
Don’t forget to tune in to episode 40 which summarises the 5 ingredients to turn your hobby into an art business.
Hope that you enjoy this chat. We love hearing from our listeners, let us know what takeaways you have from this episode by sending us a DM over on Instagram.
PODCAST LINKS:
Laura’s Art Biz Goal Setting Guide: https://www.laurajaneday.com/free
Ros’ free community Permission to Paint Free Community: http://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art for the Heart membership visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co/afh or the Permission to Paint Free Community here http://www.facebook.com/groups/permissiontopaintfreecommunity
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
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Wednesday Aug 30, 2023
047 How Artists Can Generate Income Doing Murals With Patrycja Hannagan
Wednesday Aug 30, 2023
Wednesday Aug 30, 2023
This fortnight, Laura and Ros are bringing you another interview episode with Patrycja Hannagan or PJ who is a travelling artist with 14 years experience in Fine Art who offers custom murals and teaches and mentors other artists. Currently she is in the midst of a really impressive project of painting 100 murals while travelling around Australia.
In this chat we dive into PJ’s background starting out as a creative kid in primary school. After leaving school Pj bought a one way ticket, landing herself in Canberra, where she worked and studied business. She says she lost touch with her art for a little while when she transitioned to a corporate sales career. But when she started opening up about her creative side and showing her friends and colleagues new creative opportunities started to come her way from art commissions to teaching.
During the pandemic she got asked to do a mural and after completing the first one referrals kept flowing organically and it took about 3 months for her to transition into art full time. PJ shares some really valuable tips for anyone interested in adding murals as one of their creative income streams. PJ also runs a Facebook group to support other artists called the “Thriving Artists” link below.
Hope that you enjoy this chat - We love hearing from our listeners, let us know what takeaways you have from this episode!
PODCAST LINKS:
PJ’s Website: https://muralnomad.au/
PJ’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mural_nomad/
PJ’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/muralnomad.au/
PJ’s Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/718448713398457/
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
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Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
046 How to Build Your Dream Art Business - Step 3 of 5
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
Wednesday Aug 16, 2023
This episode is a follow-up to episode 40 where we introduced the 5 ingredients to stepping things up and turning your art hobby into a thriving art business.
In this episode, we dive into strategy (ingredient no.3) and the importance of looking at the big picture when building your art business. We chat about how strategic thinking helps both artists in the beginning stages who are building an art business from scratch and also those who are more advanced and feeling the need to review their direction and possibly redirect and carve out a new path.
Laura and Ros talk about why it is essential to build an art business which suits your lifestyle, who you are and the future you want to have rather than simply following opportunities. We touch on comparisonitis and the value of staying on your own path.
During our conversation, we also explore ways to visualise your future from journaling to vision boards and chats with trusted friends, and we also refer to the various types of art business models available to artists today. Learn more about the business models by tuning into episode 30 “From Starving Artist to Making an Income from Your Art” and download your guide from Ros via the link below.
Ros gets ranty about the concept of multiple income streams and their role when building a sustainable art business. Learn more about income streams with Ros’ ‘Make Money from Your Art’ Masterclass - link below.
Coming up is goal setting and mentoring, so stay tuned for our next episodes!
If you are looking for support and guidance on your artist journey, Laura and Ros both offer mentoring at a range of price points. Don’t be shy - reach out to us via Instagram DMs.
PODCAST LINKS:
Join the Artist Evolution Challenge here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/artist-evolution
Get your ‘How to Make an Income for Artists’ guide here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources
Join the waitlist for the ‘How to Make Money from Your Art’ Masterclass with Ros: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources
Listen to Episode 30 ‘From Starving Artist to Making an Income from Your Art’
Listen to Episode 40 ‘The 5 Steps to Turn Your Hobby Into an Art Business’
FIND US AND FOLLOW US ONLINE!
Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
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Wednesday Aug 02, 2023
045 How Artists can Harness the Power of the Moon with Laetitia Andrac
Wednesday Aug 02, 2023
Wednesday Aug 02, 2023
This fortnight, we bring you a really enlightening interview with Laeticia Andrac who is an intuitive business coach from the Essential Shift.
In this episode we are talking about how we as artists can pay attention to the moon cycles and how to harness its power to create momentum in our arts practice and business. This will be an episode that you might want to grab a pen and paper for, as it is loaded with really amazing information and tips from Laeticia!
We cover what is the best time to be active in our art business and when is a time for rest and reflection. Laeticia shares tips on how to become more present and aware of the moon cycle and start to form a connection with the cycle from a beginners perspective.
On a full moon she suggests it is a good time to release something - a new offer or painting. Laeticia encourages listeners to have a journal and start to take notice on how you feel at different phases of the moon cycle - suggesting the easiest way to start is by connecting with the new moon.
If you have ever wondered how you can maximise your energy output this is the episode for you! Laeticia shares the best time in the cycle to be taking action and setting new intentions. As well as how to pinpoint the ideal time for you to be resting and letting things process. With this new knowledge you will feel more empowered and confident in your business planning, and how to use the cycle of the moon in your creative practice.
PODCAST LINKS:
Download this FREE beautiful 2023 Moon Calendar for both Northern and Southern Hemisphere: https://www.essentialshift.co/
Essential shift podcast: https://www.essentialshift.co/essential-shift-podcast
Laeticia’s NEW book: https://www.essentialshift.co/lightit
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
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Wednesday Jul 19, 2023
Wednesday Jul 19, 2023
This episode is a follow-up to episode 40 where we introduced the 5 ingredients to stepping things up and turning your art hobby into a thriving art business.
In this episode, we explore social media, email marketing, art websites and more. If you are looking for more eyes on your artwork, don’t miss this episode!
Sharing your art with a wider world may be driven by a desire to find new buyers, build your community/networks, improve your confidence in communicating about your art practice, build social proof or be a role model and shame buster.
In this chat we not only share practical tips for sharing you art ans also the common mindset blocks that pop up when sharing your art on social media - including perfectionism and the fear of judgement. We also talk about the fear of being spammy and imposter syndrome too.
In conclusion, sharing your art on social media is all about being courageous and showing up. That’s why one of the most common challenges that artists come up against is mindset. If you are looking for support and guidance on your artist journey, Laura and Ros both offer mentoring at a range of price points. Don’t be shy - reach out to us via Instagram DMs.
Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
PODCAST LINKS:
Get your Instagram Calendar for Artists here: https://www.permissiontopaint.co/resources
Get your Project Planner here - https://laurajaneday.com/free
Listen to episode 34 to learn about Instagram specifically.
Listen to episode 39 to learn about email marketing specifically.
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
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Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
043 How Astrology Influences Your Destiny As An Artist with Robyn Saurine
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
This fortnight, we bring you a really different interview episode with business and astrology coach Robyn Saurine. Taking a multi-faceted approach to business, she describes what she does as a human potential expert, performance and visual artist as well as a yoga teacher and studio owner.
In this episode we talk about how you can use astrology as a guide for your creative business as well as understanding your personality as an artist .
Robyn gives a very detailed overview of how you can start using this system for yourself as an artist. We would highly advise getting out a pen and paper so you can take some notes for this information packed episode! We also have some links in the show notes to a specific website that Robyn mentions, which can help you to generate your very own astrological chart.
She describes the simplest way to start out is by identifying the element you are - eg: air, fire, water or earth. This will give you information on how you work as a person and inform aspects of your creative business. If you are looking for a more tailored approach Robyn does coaching and one on one readings online. In the session Robyn can provide specific information in regards to your chart and personality as an artist and how that can help you in your creative career.
We won't give too much more info from the episode away ….Tune in now!
PODCAST LINKS:
www.instagram.com/robynsaurine/
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
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Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
042 Discover Your Identity as an Artist - Step 1 of 5
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
In this episode, we revisit the conversation from episode 40 where we shared the five ingredients for turning your art hobby into a fulfilling art business.
Laura and Ros big deeper and chat specifically on the topic of how to find your identity as an artist, find your style, create a volume of work and refine your technique.
We talk through the reasons why artists may seek an art style that is recognisable as their own. Laura describes this as a journey of self discovery and a way to gain clarity and direction. Ros adds that your voice as an artist is more than an aesthetic style, it also relates to the message you want to convey and the impact you want your art to have on the world.
Laura notes that while the stage of finding your style is a fun one, once you have hit your stride as an artist and built your confidence, it is important not to get stuck in the learning phase. The goal must then become to put your learning into practice.
We share these steps for finding your identity as an artist:
- Set your intentions
- Do some practical prioritisation - consider your routine, time blocking, boundaries
- Do the work with awareness around your motivators and how you work best
- Consider developing a portfolio
- Do some reflection - journaling/talking
The key tawaway we would like you to gain from the episode is the importance of having clear intentions, committing to them and showing up. These are the factors that will have you making traction
Get Laura’s ‘Crafting Your Artist Statement’ free guide to deepen your understanding of who you are as an artist.
Get Ros’ free masterclass on ‘How to Find your Unique Art Style’ so you can overcome your blocks and learn the best, most practical ways of finding your style.
PODCAST LINKS:
Laura’s free guide ‘Crafting Your Artist Statement’ https://www.laurajaneday.com/free
Ros’ free masterclass ‘How to Find Your Unique Art Style’ https://www.permissiontopaint.co/style
FIND US AND FOLLOW US ONLINE!
Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
Catch you in the next episode!

Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
041 Interview with Kate Quinn and How Winning an Art Prize Changed Everything
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
This fortnight, we bring you a really fun interview episode with the talented floral still life painter Kate Quinn. We talk about all of the amazing things that Kate does in her art business from original oil paintings to prints to tableware and bespoke art classes with her business partner Emily Day.
Kate talks about “Bloom” the bespoke art experiences that she created in partnership with fellow Brisbane based artist Emily Day. She shares how they wanted to create a really special painting experience hosted in beautiful locations all over Australia.
Her journey into her art career is an interesting one, with a social work background, Kate focused for many years raising her family and she says that she always had a creative hobby on the side. She started painting because she was really inspired by oil painter Laura Jones (link below).
Her art life really changed when she entered the Jumbled Art Superstar competition that she won in 2020. The next day she went to the bank and set up an official business bank account. Kate talks about how she never sat down to plan her business rather she dived head first and just tried things out along the way. She shares the evolution of developing a homewares product range which is printed locally through Applik (link below).
Kate talks about being an exhibiting artist and shares information about her upcoming show called “SEASONS” running from 11 - 16 July at Latrobe Art Space. The official opening will be on Thursday 13th July from 6pm. If you are from Brisbane go and check it out!
The exhibition is in Collaboration with: Pia Kuykhoven - painter and ceramic artist as well as Chelsea Baker a seed pod painter (links below).
Ros also mentions a previous Paint Rest Repeat Podcast episode: #38 Our Top Tips for Preparing for a Successful Art Show.
PODCAST LINKS:
Bloom Bespoke Art Workshops: https://www.bloomartexperiences.com/
Instagram: @bloom_art_experiences
Emily Day: @e_milydaystudio
Pia Kuykhoven: painter & ceramic artist @pia.kuykhoven.artist
Chelsea Baker: seed pod painter @hello.chelsart
Florist: @flowersvasette
Florist: @bess_paddington
Laura Jones: painter @_laura_jones_
Applik Fabric Printing: @applik_digital_fabric_printing
Jumbled Art Prize:
https://www.jumbledonline.com/pages/jumbled-art-competition
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
Catch you in the next episode!

Wednesday May 24, 2023
040 The 5 Steps to Turn Your Hobby Into an Art Business
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Wednesday May 24, 2023
This fortnight, Laura and I bring you a powerful and practical episode to help you step things up and build the creative life that you desire. This episode is relevant for all artists looking for growth and expansion, particularly if you are a hobby artist and want to move into the business or professional space. There is something in here for every artist.
Laura shares her belief that if you have a calling of the heart or a dream to sell your work, it is your duty to honour that on a spiritual level. It is important to set a good example for others such as children or others, so we can break the common societal belief that a creative career is difficult and one of struggle. This dream is possible. And we owe it to the world to role model this for others.
We take you through a 5-part framework for making progress in your art business.
1. The Art & The Identity: We chat about the importance of creating a volume of work, developing your style and refining your technique. This is the stage where you contemplate who you are as an artist. Laura shares a kind piece of advice, to not get lost in this learning phase and to not let perfectionism get the better of you.
2. Sharing Your Art: This part of artist-ing focuses on putting it out there and getting your art out into the world and in front of others’ eyes. This includes social media channels and email marketing too. Key mindset matters to consider here are comparison, perfectionism and imposter syndrome. If these things pop up for you, know you are ‘normal!’
3. Strategy: An essential part of art business is stepping back and looking at the big picture. Research and decide what type of art business you want to build. Also consider what income streams you might want to include in your business. Tune in to Episode 30 to learn more about how to make an income from your art.
4. Goal and Intention Setting: Knowing your big picture direction and goals and breaking them down into small goals is essential. Check out episode 18 to explore powerful goal setting for artists. What outcome do you hope to achieve by the end?
5. Tapping into Mentorship and Community: Your mentor could be someone online who you have never met. It could be someone who inspires you through podcasts or books or it could be someone completely outside of the art realm or even someone who has passed. Community is also non-negotiable. Listen to episode 7 on how to build community.
If you take only one message away from this episode, we want you to know that you can take your art to the business and professional level. If this is your calling, it is possible.
PODCAST LINKS:
Free Masterclass: How To Find Your Unique Art Style with Ros
Art Biz Goal Setting Guide from Laura
Episode 018 Powerful Goal Setting For Artists And Those In Art Business
Episode 030 From Starving Artist To Making An Income From Your Art
Episode 007 12 Ideas To Help You Build Your Artist Community
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
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Wednesday May 10, 2023
039 Interview With Tash Corbin And Growing Your Mailing List To Sell More Art
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Wednesday May 10, 2023
This fortnight, we bring you another fantastic interview episode with Tash Corbin who is a heart centered business coach. Tash supports women and non-binary people to create and grow their online business using marketing strategies that are consent based that aren't pushy and spammy. Her focus is on helping her clients with marketing strategies that are good at connection and have high conversion rates.
We talk about the topic of mailing lists and Tash shares some really great insights on growing your audience in an aligned way. She shares some really useful tips for beginners and people that are just starting out building a mailing list and are wanting to make more art sales online.
We talk about the importance of knowing your niche and why knowing who you are talking to in your marketing helps with sales conversion. Another big point Tash made was in creating trust with your audience and committing to regularly showing up even if it is once a month when starting out. By committing to showing up you are building trust with your potential customers and art collectors.
We touch on mindset and the topic of perfectionism and how it can get in the way of consistency in email marketing. Tash shares some really practical tips for getting people onto your mailing list from Instagram.
This is an inspiring episode that is sure to get you motivated to implement all of the practical advice that Tash has to share! Links below to her website and the free training she discusses in this episode.
PODCAST LINKS:
Tash Corbin’s Freebie: Grow your audience:
https://tashcorbin.com/audience/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tashcorbin/
Website: https://tashcorbin.com/
Watch The Heart Centred Business Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@tashcorbincoaching
Links to Emily Osmond on the Heart Centred Business Podcast
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Follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurajaneday/
Follow Ros on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosgervayart
And to book a creative kick-start coaching session with Laura or to find out more about her Soul Medicine Painting workshops please visit: https://laurajaneday.com/
For more information about Ros’ Art For The Heart membership as well as her instant access classes please visit https://www.permissiontopaint.co or to see Ros’ artwork please visit http://www.rosgervayart.com
Book Your Spot in a Painting and Gin Experience with Laura:
https://laurajaneday.com/gin-painting
Please help us grow our Podcast by leaving us 5 stars on Spotify or a review on Apple Podcasts. Here is how!
Catch you in the next episode!